8 Reales, Mexico, 1805

8 Reales, Mexico, 1805

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Description (Brief)
One (1) 8 real coin
Mexico, 1805
Obverse Image: Portrait of Charles IV.
Obverse Text: CAROLUS III / DELGRATIA / 1805
Reverse Image: Two (2) pillars with shield and crown pictures of castle and lion on shield.
Reverse Text: HISPAN / ET / IND / REX / M / 8R / T / H
This silver Spanish dollar (also known as an eight real coin or piece of eight) was minted around 1805. The obverse side of the coin has a profile portrait of King Charles IV. The coin reads “Del Gratia 1805 Carolous IIII,” (Charles IIII by the Grace of God, 1805). The reverse has an image of Spain’s Pillars of Hercules lesser royal coat of arms. The reverse reads, “HISPAN ET IND REX M 8R T H” (King of the Spains and the Indies, Mexico, 8 reales). The initial M is for the coins minting in Mexico City, and the initials “TH” belong to the coin’s assayer. This coin has Chinese “chop marks,” marks made to check that the dollar was made of the silver it was supposed to be.
Spanish dollars were the monies of choice when coins were available in Colonial America, and Americans liked them so much that they eventually based their own U.S. dollar on the Spanish real. The uniform quality of the Spanish real made it a popular currency for international trade.
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Mexico City Mint
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Physical Description
silver (overall metal)
0 (overall die axis)
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struck (overall production method)
overall:.2 cm x 4 cm; 3/32 in x 1 9/16 in
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Credit Line
Estate of Josiah K. Lilly
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Exhibition Location
National Museum of American History
Data Source
National Museum of American History
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I was friends with an engineer in Bangkok, Thailand in the 70's/80's and we were such good friends that his family gave him one of the eight silver coins they carried down from China when they migrated into what was called Siam. This was quite an honor that his family would present this to me. What surprises me is that it was minted in Mexico, and wound up in China! My friend passed away years ago, and I am in the process of returning it back to his wife and son, seems it should be back in the family after staying with me for over 40 years. FYI. By the way, the same date as this picture, 1805.

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